Maybe instead of Artificial Intelligence what we need is Artificial Consciousness to build a truly thinking machine. A conscious machine might show more empathy towards me than a highly intelligent one would ... maybe? Pure intelligence is not empathetic Then again what does it mean to be "Artificial" if it can exist withing the universe then somewhere out in the cosmos it does exist.
You are spot on, particleion. It is about AC, not AI. We need not smarter people, but kinder people. The world is already (mis) managed by some of the smartest people alive. What is missing is more empathy.
Thanks for your well thought out and interesting posting, Martine. There are, however a few points which might add new dimensions to your cogitations I will them sketch out here they but are covered more completely in my book "Unusual Perspectives", the electronic version of which may be downloaded freely from the web-page: www.unusual-perspectives.net The only essential problem with mind-clones would appear to be the practicalities of their implementation. Using the scenario derived in UP, based upon apparent direction the life vector (for which quite compelling evidence is presented in chapter 11), our only real alternative to quite imminent extinction is to avail ourself of the opportunity to form a loose symbiotic with the soon-to emerge new predominant life-form on this planet. In this event our greatly increased technological capabilities eventuating therefrom may well be sufficient to implement mind-clones. There is then, of course, the question of motivation. You touch upon the issue of divergence of individuality after cloning. This could, I guess, be remedied by constant up-dating such that all experiences wind up shared. Do you not have serious doubts as to whether we would actually want this, though? Another relevant issue addressed in the book (its scope is broad) is the question of consciousness (self-awareness, sense of agency). You suggest that it is "not such a big deal", almost the same words that I use in the book, except that my interpretation is rather different. It is considered by many that conscious will inevitably, in some vague manner, spring out of complexity. In fact, with the addition of a good helping of feed-back to the equation, it was a view I held myself at one time, although I was never happy with its inherent woolliness. I have now come to realise that by stepping out of our very natural anthropocentric shell and viewing in the light of evolutionary considerations we can quite clearly interpret consciousness as an inevitable result of natural selection and (unflatteringly) as merely a quite necessary navigational function for the community of cells which it (the navigator) considers, rather arrogantly, to be its "body", its "self". A result at which we could never arrive at by introspection. It is merely that component of an organism that handles the broadly navigational interactions with the external world, rather than the more straightforward requirements of, say, basic thermoregulation. There would appear to be no reason that we could not implement an analogous facility in any data processing system having comparable memory and processing power. Again, consciousness is an essentially navigational facility provided to organisms (via natural selection) on an as-needed basis by nature. We clearly need much more than most creatures. Why has this come about? UP posits reasons! PK www.unusual-perspectives.net
Thanks PK. I look forward to reading your book. It is nice to find a kindred spirit. To answer one of your questions, I have very little doubt we will want to be updated, or synched, all the time. Frankly, I am very close to that mindset now with my social media and friends, each of whom are, in a kind of Hofstadtlerian sense, part of my consciousness. More generally, I'm always synching my mobile and my laptop and my desktop and my cloud. AC is as big as a universe and has virtually unlimited capability to synch in background. We can think more than we think.
Maybe instead of Artificial Intelligence what we need is Artificial Consciousness to build a truly thinking machine. A conscious machine might show more empathy towards me than a highly intelligent one would ... maybe? Pure intelligence is not empathetic Then again what does it mean to be "Artificial" if it can exist withing the universe then somewhere out in the cosmos it does exist.
ReplyDeleteYou are spot on, particleion. It is about AC, not AI. We need not smarter people, but kinder people. The world is already (mis) managed by some of the smartest people alive. What is missing is more empathy.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your well thought out and interesting posting, Martine.
ReplyDeleteThere are, however a few points which might add new dimensions to your cogitations I will them sketch out here they but are covered more completely in my book "Unusual Perspectives", the electronic version of which may be downloaded freely from the web-page:
www.unusual-perspectives.net
The only essential problem with mind-clones would appear to be the practicalities of their implementation. Using the scenario derived in UP, based upon apparent direction the life vector (for which quite compelling evidence is presented in chapter 11), our only real alternative to quite imminent extinction is to avail ourself of the opportunity to form a loose symbiotic with the soon-to emerge new predominant life-form on this planet. In this event our greatly increased technological capabilities eventuating therefrom may well be sufficient to implement mind-clones. There is then, of course, the question of motivation. You touch upon the issue of divergence of individuality after cloning. This could, I guess, be remedied by constant up-dating such that all experiences wind up shared.
Do you not have serious doubts as to whether we would actually want this, though?
Another relevant issue addressed in the book (its scope is broad) is the question of consciousness (self-awareness, sense of agency).
You suggest that it is "not such a big deal", almost the same words that I use in the book, except that my interpretation is rather different. It is considered by many that conscious will inevitably, in some vague manner, spring out of complexity. In fact, with the addition of a good helping of feed-back to the equation, it was a view I held myself at one time, although I was never happy with its inherent woolliness. I have now come to realise that by stepping out of our very natural anthropocentric shell and viewing in the light of evolutionary considerations we can quite clearly interpret consciousness as an inevitable result of natural selection and (unflatteringly) as merely a quite necessary navigational function for the community of cells which it (the navigator) considers, rather arrogantly, to be its "body", its "self". A result at which we could never arrive at by introspection. It is merely that component of an organism that handles the broadly navigational interactions with the external world, rather than the more straightforward requirements of, say, basic thermoregulation. There would appear to be no reason that we could not implement an analogous facility in any data processing system having comparable memory and processing power.
Again, consciousness is an essentially navigational facility provided to organisms (via natural selection) on an as-needed basis by nature.
We clearly need much more than most creatures. Why has this come about? UP posits reasons!
PK
www.unusual-perspectives.net
Thanks PK. I look forward to reading your book. It is nice to find a kindred spirit. To answer one of your questions, I have very little doubt we will want to be updated, or synched, all the time. Frankly, I am very close to that mindset now with my social media and friends, each of whom are, in a kind of Hofstadtlerian sense, part of my consciousness. More generally, I'm always synching my mobile and my laptop and my desktop and my cloud. AC is as big as a universe and has virtually unlimited capability to synch in background. We can think more than we think.
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